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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 13, 2022.

Sid Salter

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target anymore MB 23:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - The three redirects to Supertalk Mississippi from a non notable radio station manager's name; ex presenter's name and the name of an ex show go back to a web of redirects and user pages masquerading as article pages created by sockpuppetry in about 2010 in the User:Arpierson1993 case. The names at the Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Arpierson1993 there and those user pages are particularly interesting. None of the three terms redirected currently are mentioned on the target page (nor is there any material likelihood any reasonable person would consider the material on the page might relate to them) and it doesn't seem very likely to me they should be in the future. When they appeared before it was only as entries in long lists of non notable radio station employees; non notable former employees, and non notable defunct shows that formerly filled the page with trivia, spam station promotion and vanity listing of employees names. It is not remotely likely any wikipedia user would want to search for Supertalk Mississippi using the terms in these redirects. Sid Salter seems to be a PR professional working for Mississippi State University where any redirect for him should have gone if he was mentioned on that page but he doesn't seem to be anyway. The redirects being considered are not referenced by any material article page links nor does there seem any reasonable chance of losing useful links to old page material by deleting them. I created much of the content currently at Supertalk Mississippi but have no COI to declare. Indeed I have never set foot in Mississippi or the United States. I listened to the station whilst editing its Wikipedia page and found it interesting. <aside>It does seem to me there is a weak parallel between the legal case reported at Supertalk Mississippi#College athletes' image rights where Supertalk was accused of pinching college athlete's image rights for its own commercial benefit and this situation where the firm's PR team built a web of redirects and bogus article pages using the names of staff and ex staff as a link farm to promote its own wikipedia page.</aside> I am grateful to User:MB for placing these pages in the list to be considered for deletion.Ed1964 (talk) 05:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Bob Sullender

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target anymore. MB 23:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - The three redirects to Supertalk Mississippi from a non notable radio station manager's name; ex presenter's name and the name of an ex show go back to a web of redirects and user pages masquerading as article pages created by sockpuppetry in about 2010 in the User:Arpierson1993 case. The names at the category Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Arpierson1993 there and those user pages are particularly interesting. None of the three terms redirected currently are mentioned on the target page (nor is there any material likelihood any reasonable person would consider the material on the page might relate to them) and it doesn't seem very likely to me they should be in the future. When they appeared before it was only as entries in long lists of non notable radio station employees; non notable former employees, and non notable defunct shows that formerly filled the page with trivia, spam station promotion and vanity listing of employees names. It is not remotely likely any wikipedia user would want to search for Supertalk Mississippi using the terms in these redirects. Sid Salter seems to be a PR professional working for Mississippi State University where any redirect for him should have gone if he was mentioned on that page but he doesn't seem to be anyway. The redirects being considered are not referenced by any material article page links nor does there seem any reasonable chance of losing useful links to old page material by deleting them. I created much of the content currently at Supertalk Mississippi but have no COI to declare. Indeed I have never set foot in Mississippi or the United States. I listened to the station whilst editing its Wikipedia page and found it interesting. <aside>It does seem to me there is a weak parallel between the legal case reported at Supertalk Mississippi#College athletes' image rights where Supertalk was accused of pinching college athlete's image rights for its own commercial benefit and this situation where the firm's PR team built a web of redirects and bogus article pages using the names of staff and ex staff as a link farm to promote its own wikipedia page.</aside> I am grateful to User:MB for placing these pages in the list to be considered for deletion.Ed1964 (talk) 05:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:DENIALS

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 21#Wikipedia:DENIALS

Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Legoktm (talk) 02:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting page move test/page move vandalism Schierbecker (talk) 22:49, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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TikTok war

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The creator of this redirect cited this New Yorker article, but I'm not sure that's enough. The destination doesn't mention TikTok, so someone searching for it might be served just as well by TikTok, and it's also likely to age poorly, as future wars will also be fought on TikTok assuming the platform survives. Lastly, my read of the media coverage is that "first TikTok war" is being used more as a descriptor (e.g. "it's the first war fought on TikTok") than as a proper name (e.g. "I fought in the First TikTok War"), and as such I don't think it makes as much sense as a redirect. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 21:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Big words

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Longest words. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:21, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not synonymous. Delete unless a better target can be identified. signed, Rosguill talk 20:46, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Retarget to Longest words. I think it could be deleted, but Long words currently redirects to Longest words, so you could argue Big words could follow the same format. I'd personally be happy either way. – DirkJandeGeer щи 21:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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He can't keep getting away with this

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Generic phrase. Linked to Sam Hyde per this KnowYourMeme submission of dubious reliability, but even if taken as fully reliable, it appears to have originated on Breaking Bad and only sometimes is invoked with reference to Hyde. Deletion seems more appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 20:45, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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My god, what have I done?

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a line in the song, but it's also a generic phrase. Deletion seems appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 20:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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2b2t user names

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The result of the discussion was delete. Without prejudice against recreation should any of these come to be mentioned in the target article. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 06:09, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Created with the edit summary Fairly notable player on this server, but they are not mentioned in any capacity at the target. Delete unless a WP:DUE mention can be added at the target (a brief internet search is not encouraging). signed, Rosguill talk 20:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I think it's good practice to not mention users in server articles like 2b2t. Only an image credit from Windows Central but more mention by PC Gamer. Still, since they aren't mentioned in the article (and shouldn't), the redirects should be deleted (Leijurv has been notified on his talk by nominator). SWinxy (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's worth noting that I decided against nominating 3 other username redirects that are mentioned: Hausmaster and James Rustles rather prominently, FitMC probably should be nominated on WP:R#DELETE #10 grounds. signed, Rosguill talk 21:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (thanks rosguill for the mention) Wow, I didn't even know I had an article, that's super cool!! (even though it's a redirect, and even though said redirect is nominated for deletion lol). Anyway, I'm not mentioned in the article, but a few of the cited sources mention "Leijurv". A WP:DUE mention could, theoretically, be added. I'm mentioned five times in this one, and this one credits me for the heatmap. I didn't add myself to the article because that's self-serving COI, so I left it up to others, and I still do. Up to y'all! Leijurv (talk) 03:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Leijurv, delete the others as long as a mention of his contributions to Nocom is placed in the article. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 13:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom. I see there is a desire to keep Leijurv, and this is conditional to having a mention at the target, but no one is up to add the mention, and I don't know enough about the subject for it. If others have to go, so will Leijurv. Jay 💬 13:43, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not like these solutions are mutually exclusive; the redirect can be recreated after adding a mention at any time. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The reasonable place would be in adaptive tracking system programmed by Leijurv, a member of Nerds Inc., (the addition being in bold). I won't add this myself because COI but perhaps someone else will. I believe it would be due with respect to the amount of coverage given to Nocom in the article, relative to mentions of me in the source. Leijurv (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    tbh I don't think that we should. We've gone without it for the past year, and, no offence, its addition would be self-serving. SWinxy (talk) 04:47, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Ground Zero (record label)

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 00:08, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ground Zero is mentioned once in the target article, in the infobox, which doesn't strike me as sufficient for the redirect to be useful. It's hard to find mentions of the record label using the search, but a cursory look didn't show up any plausible alternative targets. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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St. Pissed the Fuck Off

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target or any other article, which is unsurprising as Google shows me a total of three results for this phrase, which seems to be a made-up nickname for this album. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:29, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: made-up nonsense --FMSky (talk) 16:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Transformers Untitled

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:08, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is an "untitled" future project listed at the target page, but the use of the phrase like this is both unlikely and could assume there is a project by this specific name. (The redirect was an article for a day in 2012, and the content looks as though it refers to Transformers: Age of Extinction.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Gasper

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Restore the original page. No need for a prolonged discussion. Being Bold. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 04:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I declined R3 (implausible, recently created redirect) speedy deletion. I think that the disambiguation page now at Gasper (disambiguation) should be at Gasper, reversing the original move to make this a redirect by TatesTopG. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 18:12, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Porn scanner

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 21#Porn scanner

Polefield

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The result of the discussion was keep. Refined to Prestwich#History which is where the mention was added. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 02:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Polefield appears to be an area in or near Prestwich, but isn't mentioned in the target, or in any other article in sufficient depth to be worth retargeting. My inquiry at the target talk page didn't reveal any interest in adding a mention to make this redirect useful to the reader. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:47, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Polefield is a well-attested historical place - see https://prestwich.org.uk/history/places/polefield.html. Polefield House didn't survive the 20th century, and I suppose it is all built over now. Has become a street name. Simple removal of the redirect is not the best solution here. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:16, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Charles Matthews: If a sourced mention can be added to the target I'd be happy to withdraw this nomination. In cases like these I make a point of beginning a talk page discussion before going to RfD in the hopes of arriving at that outcome. But having a redirect that fails to take readers to any relevant information is, in my view, worse than having no redirect at all. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 16:44, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My attitude is that typing here is less constructive than typing on the target page. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:47, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's unfortunate because this is where redirects are supposed to be discussed. But to Arms & Hearts' point, I agree: If the content is added to the target page, this redirect could/should continue to exist, but if not, it should be deleted. (So, to make my "vote" official: delete unless a mention is added to the target page.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:08, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Intergenerational ethics

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 20#Intergenerational ethics

Schooner Virjen de Covadonga

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Useless misspell. Spanish speakers would laugh at any native that made this error. Super Ψ Dro 11:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I think a J for a G is a plausible misspell. Good thing this is not the Spanish Wikipedia, over here we don't have to deal with this rude hypothetical Spanish speaker. -- Tavix (talk) 15:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Microsoft Office 2002

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Per WP:CSK#1: withdrawn by nominator; nobody else has commented. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:38, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This version of Office is little to not referred to as this at all, also, this office suite was released in 2001 and not 2002. Colgatepony234 (talk) 13:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay never mind, withdraw this redirect discussion because I did not look deeper into the page first and see that everything there is called "2002". Do not relist. Colgatepony234 (talk) 13:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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2022 Hoover Dam exposion

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:29, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

implausible search term. 2022 Hoover Dam explosion already exists as a redirect. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:38, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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A.M.U. PUBLIC SR. SEC. SCHOOL

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:29, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term. The school isn't even mentioned in the target article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:29, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:GAMESOURCES

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 20#Wikipedia:GAMESOURCES

Butter (alchemy)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 20#Butter (alchemy)

French world

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. This outcome had slight majority support, and would be the default outcome in a no-consensus close, but I do find rough consensus here. 7 out of 13 participants were at least open to this outcome, and of the 6 opposed, the one straight delete argument was not very strong, while the five retarget !votes were split between 2 Geographical distribution of French speakers, 1 that or Culture of France, and 2 a restored Francophonie. No camp made a stronger argument than any other as to why their preferred target should be considered primary, strengthening the case for disambiguation. Furthermore, most !votes against disambiguation were made prior to Lenticel's suggestion of both DABbing and restoring Francophonie.
On that note, I find a weaker but extant consensus to restore Francophonie. The matter was addressed by a minority of participants, but received no opposition among those who addressed it. Since the previous decision to BLAR Francophonie was a bold decision and not the product of any consensus, this is more than sufficient agreement to revert that BLARing. Any further discussion of that page's fitness to be an article should occur at AfD. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 05:27, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think it the redirect describes its current target. This redirect formerly targeted Francophonie prior to it being retargeted to its current target by a bot after Francophonie was blanked-and-redirected towards Organisation internationale de la Francophonie back in 2020 after a brief edit war of sorts. Steel1943 (talk) 00:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or disamb - French world is a strange way to describe it.Gusfriend (talk) 09:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: most of the Francophonie is not France. There is no good retarget. As a second choice, DABify as per 64.229.88.43. Veverve (talk) 10:32, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is a plausible search term for someone looking for the parts of the world that have/have had French linguistic and/or cultural heritage (c.f. Francosphere). The lead of the article says it "is an international organization representing countries and regions where French is a lingua franca or customary language, where a significant proportion of the population are francophones (French speakers), or where there is a notable affiliation with French culture." - i.e. exactly what someone will be looking for. There is also a hatnote to Geographical distribution of French speakers. Disambiguating per the IP is my second choice. Thryduulf (talk) 06:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or disambiguate - If kept, I think it should be as an "R to avoid double redirect" to Francosphere. But it would be fine also to disambiguate it per the IP and I think Francosphere could target this DAB page as well. A7V2 (talk) 00:55, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-veg joke

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"veg" content (only relevant to India) has been removed from the article QueenofBithynia (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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